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- "You need to share. I don't believe this - no one I have ever known has had a worse time of it than me - even with a couple o' major unforeseen "act of God" tragedies...Now I'm curious."
Posted by AdrianJ on "Imprints" by AdrianJ
- "and by the way....my vessel is not a ship. Its a dingy with two oars and no anchor and I am the captain and crew"
Posted by Unknown on "Imprints" by AdrianJ
- "The answer to all five of your questions in my case is no. Seriously. And I know that divine intervention does not always come in the form of mana from heaven. But I will not give 'credit' to 'god' for everything good that ever happens to me and blame everything bad on myself or a 'devil'. If i have to take responsibility for all the shittiness in my life then I'm taking credit for all the good things I chose for myself too. god didn't give me strength, he gave me free will and I'm the one who chose to be strong or weak"
Posted by Unknown on "Imprints" by AdrianJ
- "So basically, what you're saying is, that "God" is essentially the "Architect" from the second installment from the Matrix? I had this notion when I was a teenager - made me want to raise an army and kill God for being such a... how can this be, I'm a loss for words!"
Posted by AdrianJ on "False freedoms, Holy Cheats and Formal Lies to Tyrannize" by AdrianJ
- "But then, we're working under the assumption - that "not all men are created equal" some 'get' religion and other's don't? Perhaps semantically splitting hairs, but what exactly is 'getting' it? Is it cognitive or are we talking about that indefinable realm of the 'spiritual'?"
Posted by AdrianJ on "False freedoms, Holy Cheats and Formal Lies to Tyrannize" by AdrianJ
- "hmmm there are many truths that are not yet believed... and many falsehoods worshiped the world over. The psychological act of affirming the truth of some "thing" (belief) and the means (usually with scientific method) by which some "thing" is determined as true are not equivalent, maybe not even similar... maybe not even remotely so. Sometimes people have good psychological and emotional reasons for denying what has come to be deemed "true" ... just my thoughts.... murmurs in the dark."
Posted by Unknown on "From Whence Comes Faith?" by AdrianJ
- ""Perhaps we belabor a misconception, that good and evil exist at all. That it is human selfishness and corruption that causes all the destruction. Benevolence also fits into this room and diversifies our species appropriately." Yup. But whats good for some is bad medicine for others. Can't we just say that we don't get the whole religion thing, and leave the people who do, and do no harm with it, alone?
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Posted by Alanarchy on "False freedoms, Holy Cheats and Formal Lies to Tyrannize" by AdrianJ
- "You should read American Gods. Good book. But again, we can't blame the blame, so we blame the invisible man. I think if there is a God, he isn't a control freak. He doesn't sit in front of a TV screen with a joy stick in his hands. He sets the stage, full of protagonists, lions, tigers, bears. He challenges us, because he wants us to overcome. Maybe he isn't benevolent. Maybe god is something nuetrel. Maybe he isn't sentient at all, just a floating sense of something. Maybe it doesnt exist. Maybe it does. Who knows. This isn't a matter for logic, my friend. Once again, it's a matter of faith, that thing you seem to be so down on. I don't know, dude. No one on darkpoetry knows, you don't know. No one knows at all. Maybe you don't even know after you die. Well I guess it would be niccce... If I could touch ya body. I know not everybody has got a body like you-o-o ;D"
Posted by Alanarchy on "False freedoms, Holy Cheats and Formal Lies to Tyrannize" by AdrianJ
- "You do, and by the tenets of at least Christianity, God 'loves' all his creations - just some more than others ;-P My point being, is not if there "is" a God or "is not" but the God we manufacture and allow to constrict our free will most definitely not...When I meet God, I want to find out first, can he take a punch..."
Posted by AdrianJ on "False freedoms, Holy Cheats and Formal Lies to Tyrannize" by AdrianJ
- "I get your point, but allow me to retort: If we have free will - then where does our social instinct come from? Why do people band together into nations, groups, societies and religions? Shouldn't we reject such constructs based on this premise of free will? What makes us more than apes who know how to fish? The answer lies in the benefits of the tribe. Grouping is beneficial, even if you have to relinquish freedom. But please, don't confuse free will as a choice between individuality and starving to death because the Christians have all the food..."
Posted by AdrianJ on "False freedoms, Holy Cheats and Formal Lies to Tyrannize" by AdrianJ
- "questions that are all - valid. But I tend to think that its not God .... but us. I'm sure if the world were a highs chool God would be that young English teacher that all the Jocks have talked about time and again on how they've "tapped" that and then got heated up and fought over who really "had her." I hope God forgives me for the poor analogy (to a highschool english teacher at that!) but its the only way I could express it at the moment - I hated God for a while, for exactlyy these questions - but much more of the contradictions and the hypocracy comes from us than can actually be linked to God...and I guess in the end it comes down to rather or not we want to hold God accountable or ourselves(How can He not be accountable, He's the ultimate point of origin for everything, right?) - But I try to rationalize what I can and hope that one day when I do meet Him (if allowed to, lol, I don't know if He likes Cynics)I'm sure I'll have alot of questions for Him. Do I make any sense? lol - much appreciated work, ~Downstream~"
Posted by Withering petals on "False freedoms, Holy Cheats and Formal Lies to Tyrannize" by AdrianJ
- ""If you love someone, set them free. If they come back they're yours; if they don't they never were." - Richard Bach ---I think that those who believe in God would say that this is why there is "good" and "evil." God, in the Christian sense, isn't portrayed as the GOOD who created evil, but rather that God is LOVE, and LOVE (and those things done in love) is good, while those things done without love would classify as evil. Thus, God being LOVE, showed the ultimate in love by giving man free will; a choice to act in love, or without it. He does not choose, set-aside, or sort out individuals. They, however, can choose to love or not. Thus, having said all that, God could not do without "evil", as to do so, he would have to force unbound, unconditional love... yet forced love is not TRUE love. I find no contradiction in that sense of "God." The contradictions begin to come when humans try to wrestle that vast concept into "rules and regulations"."
Posted by Sketso on "False freedoms, Holy Cheats and Formal Lies to Tyrannize" by AdrianJ
- "Of course. Nothing's going to make you perfect. But can you say you've had the same impact as these people? Will you ever? Could it have been faith that helped them on their way? Well why not? Not divine intervention, no. But belief. No one in the stories, who is a human being, is as good as the stories themselves. Be that as it may... who cares? The messages are passed on. With strong undertones of faith. People benifit in all kinds of ways because of it. You don't need religion to do good, no. But it can (obviously) help the cause. Yes, many extremists can misinterperet things, and this can lead to tragedy. But my man, I think, in the end, the killing over religion is an excuse to kill over something else. As you said, we already have plenty to kill over."
Posted by Alanarchy on "From Whence Comes Faith?" by AdrianJ
- "We already do have other things to kill each other over. The issue with religion is its coherent stated dedication to one set of principles and the outright violation of those self-said principles. People can do good without being religious. This was the message of the New Testament of the Bible: only 2 things are required - Love of God and Love of your fellow man. But how can one love God - only through your fellow man - and there is your principle - why do you need to have faith to treat people fairly and with respect?? And Mother Teresa and MLK were not really the "saints" we made them out to be as time always reveals the "human" behind the "hero/herorine""
Posted by AdrianJ on "From Whence Comes Faith?" by AdrianJ
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