Ranting for the Second Amendment

By BetaWolfinVA

 After the theater shooting and before the school shootings I was in a forum on another site.  One liberal (odd that those supposedly for freedom are against the means to defend it.-note I am a techno liberal... and believe in poly... so I am not a religious conservative by any means) woman started off with not needing a semi-automatic weapon to kill bambi. (I did have to tell her about the semi-automatic being one bullet per trigger pull thing)

I told her flat out that the second amendment was intended to cull vermin that infest  governments wanting to infringe on our freedoms.

She had a novel response...

"That's absurd, if that's the reason, then that's stupid because you cannot fight drones and tanks" (we had already gone over the sword, musket, pike thing)

(Being that my home town is the U.S.. Army and I work for the Marine Corps (CONUS office rat... no where near the sharp end and I never had the honor of serving my self... but I serve those who serve...) and recovering from a 20 year addiction to a military sci-fi game that got into the weeds.)

I know that that is no where close to the truth.

Tanks are dead in close quarters if they are unsupported by infantry...
And tanks are only useful if they are occupied.
Drones are fragile... that is why they are unmanned.

Defend the schools, defend the theaters...  metal detectors and armed security...

But the blood of the future will be on our hands if we go as far as the gun control nuts are wanting to go.

Background checks, bio-locked weapons etc, all of this is sane.

But the guns r bad crowd needs to think things through...

Every political horror story that I have ever read starts "first they came for the guns, then they came for the ..., then they came for me"


Imo? Gun control is that which is taught on the firing range.

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Copyright 18 january 2013 HHMCameron
Published on Friday, January 25, 2013.     Filed under: "Political" and "Poetry"

Author's Note:

note.. I don't own a gun... and probably couldn't buy one legally. but I see no reason to try until and unless they start burning polygamists and heretics...
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  • A poet of madness On Tuesday, June 24, 2014, A poet of madness (115)By person wrote:

    Its our jobs as citizens of this REPUBLIC to be the final watchmen for the watchers, and when we give that up, we give up our country

  • BetaWolfinVA On Friday, March 1, 2013, BetaWolfinVA (795)By person wrote:

    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" --- Benjamin Franklin (17 January, 1706 – 17 April, 1790) Scholar

  • The Dybbuk On Friday, March 1, 2013, The Dybbuk (929)By person wrote:

    who's to say this is a temporary safety... and I would say, this is certainly not an "essential" liberty... it is seemingly protected by that document called the Constitution, but there's nothing essential about fire arm ownership.

  • BetaWolfinVA On Friday, March 1, 2013, BetaWolfinVA (795)By person wrote:

    this is precisely what Franklin was talking about... the Right to Bear arms is specificly an attempt to keep government honest, and it is the current political climate brought on by the school and theater shootings that is inspiring the gun control nuts to actually come close to doing it... too bad the gun control liberals are playing right into the religious conservatives hands... Scholar

  • The Dybbuk On Friday, March 1, 2013, The Dybbuk (929)By person wrote:

    the right to bear arms was written in a different time, under different conditions. in this day and age, it makes no sense.. the military is far too powerful, I don't care if you have every u.s. adult male with a gun... if the us military ever turned on it's citizens (which would be odd since it is a citizen militia, and one could argue, the protected right that the 2nd amendment really grants) then we're all doomed no matter how man small arms weaponry we have.

  • BetaWolfinVA On Saturday, March 2, 2013, BetaWolfinVA (795)By person wrote:

    you are telling me this after the lessons of Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq? Hell, look at the Revolutionary War. Think about why Special Forces are a vallued part of the US Military... Insurgency is NOT fought with tanks Scholar

  • The Dybbuk On Saturday, March 2, 2013, The Dybbuk (929)By person wrote:

    I think the improbability that american citizens will need 30 round clips to fight off a tyrannical government is no more improbable than the use of tanks by this supposed tyrannical government. Oh, and ... there is no precedent for armed revolution in this country unless you want to bring up the civil war... and I don't think they had tanks back then.

  • BetaWolfinVA On Saturday, March 2, 2013, BetaWolfinVA (795)By person wrote:

    Tanks suck when you are fignting insurgency... when you are fighting a COunter-INsurgency campaign, tanks are rarely, if ever useful... look at the doctrine and practice of COIN warfare Scholar

  • The Dybbuk On Sunday, March 3, 2013, The Dybbuk (929)By person wrote:

    Dude... I was using 'tank' as a figure of speech, a synecdoche, to represent other military assets that will not be available to the public which will make the military stronger than high capacity clips can combat. That's all. Whether they use them or other armored vehicles... it doesn't really matter to me. Keep in mind I don't think the type of apocalyptic scenario you've presented is even a realistic threat much less a good reason to support having such weaponry available to the public.

  • BetaWolfinVA On Sunday, March 3, 2013, BetaWolfinVA (795)By person wrote:

    Armoured vehicles are available to the public, both "technicals" and commercial armored cars, limosenes, as well as surplessed equipment Scholar

  • A former member wrote: I feel that you have a valid point in that sane things like background checks and registration procedures are completely sane, i think that people with mental disorders should not be able to purchase guns, though a psych evaluation may be a little impractical it might be a step in a reasonable direction. your statement about the second amendment is also accurate, however, it makes sense that some government officials may want to do away with the public's right to have guns, as no government likes the idea of possibly being overthrown, but this is just a theory. Scholar

  • BetaWolfinVA On Thursday, February 28, 2013, BetaWolfinVA (795)By person wrote:

    it is just ironic that the Liberals are up in arms over the School and Theater Shootings and wanting to get as close as possible to prohibiting Personal Ownership of any form of Fire Arm when this is what the Religious Conservatives In My not so humble Opinion would dearly love to happen so that they could roll up "undesireables" such as myself. Scholar

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